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Quick Post: Permanent Import of Foreign Plated Cars

In the beginning of February I spoke at a Seminar for foreigners in Puerto Aventuras, preceding my talk was a high ranking official from Mexican Customs. In her exposition she mentioned that it was no longer possible to permanently import vehicles once they were in Mexico: she claimed that foreign vehicles could only be imported at the border.

I disagreed at the time, so I went about looking up the law and various regulations pertinent to permanent vehicle registration, but found nothing specifically saying that the vehicle had to be imported at the northern border.

In law theory class we learned a concept of “is and ought”, there are two realities, how the world IS and how the world OUGHT to be according to the law. I passed the customs official’s statement off as an “OUGHT” situation, but I couldn’t find it.

So, I have been trying to contact a customs broker (they are like notaries who specialize in customs dealings), but getting one on the phone has been a huge ordeal. Finally after 3 weeks of trying (two really because they closed for Semana Santa), I got a customs broker on the phone:

I proceeded to talk to him about the possibilities of importing the car that has been in the country for a while…no problem. Costs….not too much. Time frame…oh, its very fast. So what paperwork do I need?

That is where the conversation got discouraging: The standard paperwork for transferring the title of a car, as you would in the US is needed. No problem. There was only one problem, the last requirement for permanently importing a foreign car is the CURRENT inspection paperwork from the Department of Environmental Quality. Current means less than 6 months old; inspection means physical, car in their facilities getting the emissions checked, inspection; and Department of Environmental Quality means the one in the United States or its equivalent in the vehicle’s country of origin.

I tried to get around this, I asked if there was any way around this requirement, if I could get the inspection done here in Mexico, isn’t there any kind of exemption…All of this was met with failure.

Without inspection paperwork that is less than six months old you cannot permanently import a foreign car. Punto.

I guess “can’t import cars that are already in the country” really falls into the category of “IS”.

So, this leaves us with the question, what are all these gringos going to do with their cars?

While I was on the phone with the customs broker in Mérida I made sure to ask, to which the reply given was:

It costs $1300 USD to get a car shipped back to the US.

Can foreigners buy a car in Mexico?

With the changes in temporary auto import policy here in Mexico in recent years I have been more and more a proponent of expats owning Mexican plated cars instead of driving down their vehicles from the States or Canada and leaving them here. I must admit, I had an American plated car for a long time, but because of my migratory status driving it was no longer legal and getting parts for it was a hassle, so this year I made the switch to a Mexican plated car.

It used to be that buying a Mexican car was prohibitively expensive because of the costs involved because of the famous “Tenencia” tax, which over the life of the car added up to an extra 25% of the car’s value. As of 2012, there is no tenencia, or at least not at a federal level, therefore the cost of having a vehicle has gone down considerably.

So, as I said, I have recommended to a lot of people that they get Mexican plated cars to save themselves some hassle. Some people have started to look into the process, or at least have started to consider it for the coming year. I thought I’d write a little primer on buying a car in Mexico, specifically in Quintana Roo, so that people have an idea of what they are doing, as buying a car in Mexico, as with many things, is a little bit different here.

First a little aside, I debated going into this part because it is a little bit “legal theoryish” and sometimes when I tell people this I feel like I am confusing them, but I decided that my readers are pretty smart and if I put it down on paper (pixels), you can go over it again if you miss it the first time:

According to the law, there are two major classifications of goods that we need to take into account: real estate and EVERYTHING ELSE. Real estate has a very specific manner of being sold, basically through public deeds and notaries. Everything else is sold, according to the law, when there is an agreement on the item to be sold and the price. You don’t even need to exchange goods and money in order for the sale to have taken place, just the act of determining what is going to be sold and for how much makes the deal good.

So we go back to, the two types of goods, real estate and everything else. A car is not real estate, therefore it is everything else. Therefore, there is no special procedure for buying and selling cars in Mexico. Anyone can do it. If you want to sell me your car for $300 and I want to pay it, the deal is good and I have myself a new car. Anyone can buy a car in Mexico.

The problem comes in when you want to register the car. According to the law, you have 30 days after you purchase the vehicle to change the name of the owner. I know people who have had vehicles for a few years and never changed the name, just saying every time they get pulled over that they bought the car last week. I don’t recommend this, but it can be done.

In order to register the car in your name, you have to produce some specific documents. This is actually where the process can get difficult or tricky, so this is actually the HOWTO part of the article, I think the rest may have just been a little rant.

So, when getting ready to put the car in your name, here are the important things to remember to have:

1. You need the ORIGINAL invoice (factura) for the vehicle. It doesn’t matter if the car was originally sold in 1983, you NEED the original invoice in order to transfer the vehicle registration into your name. The original invoice will have the dealership’s logo and fiscal information on it and will be endorsed on the back by every owner. Normally, at the time of sale, the previous owner writes something on the back of the invoice to the effect of “I transfer all rights and obligations related to this vehicle to so-and-so”.

If the car you are trying to buy was originally foreign and has been legally permanently imported (has Mexican plates), you will not have the original dealer’s invoice, but instead will need to provide the ORIGINAL foreign title and ORIGINAL of the import documents (called the pedimiento, usually two pages with wet signatures and one of them will contain a printed seal showing that the duty has been paid). This documents are just as important as the original title.

If you don’t have the original title, there are ways to get the car registered to your name, but all of them are SO dastardly that I won’t really go into them here. Usually they involve witnesses, police reports, judges and notaries. Really.

2. There is a silly requirement, at least in Quintana Roo, that in order to register the vehicle in your name, you need an FM2 or FM3. This is not anywhere in the law, but it is an interoffice policy created by some boss somewhere. If you don’t have one of these residency documents, you will need to get one.

There is a workaround to this, I don’t recommend it, but I know a lot of people who don’t have FM3′s that have registered the car in their neighbor’s, lawyer’s or accountant’s name, which seems to work. If anyone goes this route, it is a REALLY good idea to draw up a little contract explaining that while the car is registered in a third party’s name, it is still your property and you retain all rights of ownership and possession over the car. Again, I really don’t recommend this method, it is sneaky and leaves yourself open to problems.

3. If the car was manufactured before 2012, you will have to provide the ORIGINAL payment receipts of the tenencia tax for up to five years before 2012, except if the car is older than 10 years old, in which case you will have to show that the taxes were paid for the five years prior to when the car became 10 years old.

What? I was going to make a diagram, but I think it is easier to just think of it this way: If the car is more than 5 years old you will need to provide 5 years of tenencia tax receipts, but if it is less than 5 years old you will only need to provide the tax payments until 2011.

The tax receipts are important, if you cannot prove that the previous year’s taxes were paid on the car you will have to pay them yourself in order to register the car, even though the tax is no longer in effect. This can be a deal-breaker because the tax on a $20,000.00 USD car can be $1,000.00 USD. If the seller cannot provide the tax receipts, you might want to think about not buying the car.

4. You need a proof of address. This should be a phone, water or light bill in your name. If the bill is not in your name, you should include a copy of your rental contract or a letter from your landlord (whose name is on the bill) stating that you live where your bill says you live. If you go with the letter from the landlord, also bring the copy of the landlord’s identification.

5. Finally, you need to bring copies of everything with you. Copies are very important and if you don’t have them you will be sent away to make them and will have to stand in line at the tax office all over again once you have them.

You will take all of these documents to the State tax office, any police officer can help you find it, in Spanish it is known as “hacienda estatal” or the “recaudadora de rentas”. There you will stand in lines and pay your fees, the car will be inspected to make sure it is really the car you have documents for and you will be issued a new set of license plates and maybe a sticker to go on the windshield.

As you can see, buying a car in Mexico is not that hard, but it has some differences from the process in the US or Canada. There are variations to the process, many people decide to draw up a simple sale document or document that transfers all responsibility for the vehicle to the new owner, but in the end the tricky part of the negotiation is getting the car registered. Good luck!

Sexually transmitted diseases and marriage in Mexico

This article is the beginning of a new category here in MyMexicanLawyer.com, which will be called “Debatable information…”.  The idea behind this category is that much of the law is interpretation and application:  Sometimes the law says things that we have to interpret and find out how they actually work in the real world.  Warning, much of the information that you will find in this category is not going to be based solely in the law, but also in how the law is applied; even though it may be true in the case explained, it might not be applied the same for your particular case.  Use this information as a reference and always consult with a legal professional, who you are paying, before jumping into any legal business that you are getting into.

I recently received a couple of questions by email and comments to the article about marriage that asked about the STD test that was mentioned as a prerequisite for marriage.  The law in Quintana Roo is clear that a “chronic, incurable and contagious” disease is an impediment for marriage.  This distinction is important, in some states in Mexico there is no “contagious diseases” clause in the legislation and some states even specifically mention that people with Sexually Transmitted Diseases can marry (Yucatan and Chihuahua).

Legal Theory

In Quintana Roo, an STD causes the marriage to be “relatively null”, which means that the legal transaction of the marriage can be fixed by fulfilling a certain requirement.  In this case, the requirement is that both partners in the marriage know that there is an STD in the mix and are in agreement with the marriage anyway, then they must allow sixty days to pass and the marriage will be legally perfect.  Sounds easy enough, right?

The Law

In the Quintana Roo’s Civil Code, which dictates the rules about marriage, one of the requirements to solicit the marriage license is the lab results of a medical test that certifies that the spouses have no sexually transmitted diseases or in its defect a special dispensation from a Family Court Judge allowing the marriage.  Later in the law, there is an article that specifies that any official of the Civil Registry who knowingly marries two people who have any of the impediments mentioned in the law, without this dispensation, will be subject to criminal charges and loss of his position.

So, in “mortal” terms, you can “fix” a null marriage if it both partners know that they have an STD, enter into the contract willingly and 60 days have passed. However, the Official can’t legally marry you if he knows that one of the partners has a venereal disease.

Civil Registry

After talking to the senior lawyer in my office we decided that the best thing to do at this time would be to talk to someone in the Civil Registry directly. I went to the office and was helped by a very nice young lady, who told me that it wasn’t possible to get married if one of the partners has an STD. I explained to her about the Civil Code and she decided that I should go talk directly to the director, who happily received me.

The Director of the Civil Registry in Solidaridad says that it is possible to get married with the impediment of an STD, but a dispensation from the head of the Civil Registry at the state level would have to issue the dispensation.  I would imagine that would take time, but it is a possibility. It is important to mention that the Civil Code of Quintana Roo does not gives this kind of power to anyone at the Civil Registry Office.

Unconstitutional?

There is debate that this is unconstitutional, the idea being that anyone should be able to decide to marry whoever they like and do whatever they want with them (as long as it is legal). According to many State Civil codes the purpose of marriage is for “procreation” and the Mexican Constitution protects the choice of every person to decide the number of children they will have.

I am not an expert on constitutional law, so I will leave that to someone else to tackle. I think that there is probably a valid constitutional case here, but the clerks in the Civil Registry are only empowered to fill a checklist of requirements, not interpret constitutional law, so you may have a hard time using the constitutionality argument to get your marriage performed.

The Legal Option

The option that seems to be the most formally and legally accepted, is obtaining the dispensation from a Family Judge, which would take some time and also money, but is the only option that the law actually mentions, therefore the surest bet.

Don’t try this at home…

I’ve heard of people where the test for sexually transmitted diseases was performed, supposedly by a pubic institution, without having blood drawn, spit swabbed or anything else properly probed.  These couples were later issued a completely valid, legal certificate stating that they have no sexually transmitted diseases.